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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
一部很容易被错杀的电影。本片以解剖一个吃塑料的孩子为手段制造悬念，以混乱的极不稳定的基因观念，再次探索获得性遗传的可能性，这层隐喻是我见过的对李森科主义最杀根的嘲讽。这部电影是人类自我探索的一点努力：深入脏器去审美，去探寻新型性爱，去寻找生命的意义，如同深入一字一句去解读一首诗，为此本片找到了行为艺术的手段（我认为也只能借助于此），在混乱的不确定的异化过程中寻找人类未来的确定性。但本片又试图把这些探索纳入“罪行”来加以拷问，并为此而煞有介事地成立了一个执法组织和一个俱乐部，这对矛盾体十分符合人性与人类社会的基本规律，给人以清晰准确的边界感。但这部电影被错杀的原因也是显而易见，道具太差劲，与演员阵容严重不匹配，一部受制于科幻特效的未来伦理片经常会成为难以避免的悲剧。
Inner beauty is no longer 内在美 but 内脏美。LifeFormWare的员工录影surgery的部分很lost highway。最惊艳的桥段是第一场手术。
一部晦涩的伦理探索片……人类进化过程中，对于生理、心理和伦理上的探讨……最终的结论是：管他娘的，脚踩西瓜皮，滑到哪里是哪里，做爱的方式都变了，还纠结个鸟！……另外，法国妹子就是大自然的馈赠，而K妹在里头有多少存在感？K妹甚至还不如那两个女机修工！
能指即所指，符号即本质。2022年了，不需要再去争论是否「看懂」柯南伯格。
为什么Viggo这么喜欢蹲着，全程气泡音，有点担心他的喉咙，喝点gollum juice
跟戛纳邪典佳作《钛》比起来简直就是东施效颦后的尴尬作品，看得人昏昏欲睡，口味不够重，剧情还稀碎，可惜了维果的演技（不是）和蕾雅的肉体，小K更是大概率连自己都不知道在演个什么东西，白白浪费了两个小时。。。
人均喉癌气泡音搞得我大约30%没听明白… surgery is the new art & sex的概念出乎意料地好体会，以至于我觉得中间小k的old sex行为是最creepy的。选角我都好爱，完美符合未来的激情的冷漠的前卫的美丽的人们。Howard Shore配乐好棒。
其实这个设定有一点无聊，但柯南伯格的镜头真的好看
比钛好懂，比欲望号快车类型元素少，但是也没看特别懂
酷儿解读：进步者/塑料工人和他的孩子就是拥有与传统不停的身体和欲望的人（可以认为是酷儿），而保守派就是现今意义上的保守派，资本欺骗新人类它们仍然需要旧人类的东西，不遵守就会被制裁；保守的人类因为害怕新人类的出现手刃自己的小孩，而男主一语道出：我觉得他们对那具身体反而是很着迷的。这就是未来的罪行。就是不知道为什么要让斯图尔特演这么一个stereotype的角色…..（本片最讨厌的部分）反倒是男主说“I am not very good at the old sex” 不觉得讽刺吗讲着属于未来的故事却仍然用着老套的欧洲式的image
越来越不喜欢这种概念片，完全放弃了故事和叙事么？
比起《钛》在视觉上更丰富，但整部电影从内容到结构都近似于一个当代艺术馆——我觉得极媚虚无又高傲的东西。柯南伯格是一个对待概念极其粗暴但对待影像又如匠人般精细的导演。
MD看得我烦死了 这么好的题材完全变成了导演的自嗨 能体会到暴力美感 但讲故事的方式我真是难以下咽 吃完这部电影我都想给自己隔两刀清醒一下 另外那个“早餐椅”我实在是难以理解
隐约可以解释我为什么总是做梦梦见把牙齿一颗一颗掰下来还像乐高一样连成一串的现象
有一星是给那个缝闭眼口、浑身是耳的表观效颦者，跳了一段听话跟走的提线木偶舞。
可能我对克制的柯南伯格不太接受。人物内在过于追求高概念设定，还没想好这个未来是怎样的“实在”表演就结束了。物种进化和继承从自然理论过渡到人为嵌入，假如没有警察的线会好很多，他根本和vigo对不上戏嘛。我还挺喜欢极具想象力的new sex方法
与其说是bodyhorror不如说是biopolitics
可以质疑如此这般的“未来”，但一定要退回到现在甚至过去吗？
没劲。调成 3 倍速、黑白色，当做低成本 cult 片还行。
这是今年我第三次看到全裸露三点的蕾老师了。
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